Date: Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:30:03 PDT From: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group Errors-To: TCP-Group-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: TCP-Group Digest V94 #196 To: tcp-group-digest TCP-Group Digest Wed, 7 Sep 94 Volume 94 : Issue 196 Today's Topics: mail test NOS over a network TCP-Group Digest V94 #189 (NOS sizeups as a router) TCP-Group Digest V94 #193 (2 msgs) Send Replies or notes for publication to: . Subscription requests to . Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the TCP-Group Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 13:09:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Kirkpatrick Subject: mail test To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu Hi all... This is a mail test, please disregard. 73 -tpk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Sep 94 05:18:52 EST From: VK2YQA@vk2yqa.ampr.org (Bob Cameron) Subject: NOS over a network To: TCP-Group%UCSD.edu@vk4kiv.qut.ampr.org Gidday all, I run a DOS network of sorts using a 286 and 386 machine and the LantasticZ parallel port network software (v2.57 DOS5.0) I have been experimenting with one of the Clarkson FTP spec software drivers (NB.COM v3 dated 29th August 1990) to link the two machines using JNOS108C, while simultaneously using the normal network features. It is "kind of" working but I get reverse question marks on both machines and eventually the whole thing hangs. I have tried all the normal test measures like loading other drivers low, removing memory drivers etc but the fault persists. These question marks don't appear in the trace screen as data. It would be really nice to have mail etc flying from one machine to the other. Then I'd be able to put the NOS box off the desk! Has anyone got any ideas on how I can get this working properly. I can furnish a bit more detail (like syntax etc) when needed. 旼컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴커 �73's from Bob in Armidale NSW Australia. System on 24hrs� 쿣K2YQA@?????? [44.136.33.8] vk2yqa@vk2yqa.ampr.org� 읕컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴켸 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 18:26:48 -0700 From: Phil Karn Subject: TCP-Group Digest V94 #189 (NOS sizeups as a router) To: miltonm@bga.com After Bill Simpson's comment, I realized that the problems people are talking about are almost certainly due to lack of send queue length limiting. I implemented this in my NOS quite some time ago, but I don't know if I ever released it. Maybe it's time for a release... Phil ------------------------------ Date: 6 Sep 1994 13:24:56 -0500 From: "Thomas Jim" Subject: TCP-Group Digest V94 #193 To: TCP-Group@UCSD.EDU Hi. Like Ed (edhm@chevron.com), I am also interested in NOS with BSD UNIX. I recently purchased a CD ROM of Free BSD June 1994. With all the talk on the TCP list and on NetSIG List about how UNIX is so great for future packet radio, I would like to see more information posted about its use with Ham Radio.If we are to migrate towards UNIX we need to spread the info out to the non-UNIX people like myself. Is there a FAQ on using UNIX, LINUX, or BSD UNIX for Ham Radio? Why should BSD/LINUX/UNIX be used instead of NOS? Can BSD/LINUX/UNIX be used to run popular packet servers such as popmail, converse node, personal mailbox (SMTP), router, FTP, DNS, and the client processes for the same ? ( Note I am not asking for ax25 forwarding at all.) Can they be used on a 486SX to run the KISS connections to KISS tncs and ethernet? How is this accomplished? By native software or by running something like a DOS NOS (JNOS) under BSD, or a combination of the above? Where do I get the information to implement this? There are several of us in the area around Chicago that would like to try UNIX on packet TCP. I run a Gracilis PackeTen node now that is connected to my JNOS PC and the PC also is a Pop Mail/FTP Server. A new version of the PackeTen is in the works which will have an ethernet port on it that I believe will be able to talk to a UNIX box over ethernet. Thanks for any help posted here. 73 de Jim N9MOO thomas_jim@macmail2.cig.mot.com n9moo@n9moo.ampr.org[44.72.15.135] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 09:30:03 +0200 (BST) From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: TCP-Group Digest V94 #193 To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu > Is there a FAQ on using UNIX, LINUX, or BSD UNIX for Ham Radio? > Why should BSD/LINUX/UNIX be used instead of NOS? They are stable, multi-user (so you can do other things like play wolfenstein in the Linux DOS emulator while the radio burps away). You avoid the 640K memory hassles and the tools can be the 'real' internet ones. > Can BSD/LINUX/UNIX be used to run popular packet servers such as popmail, > converse node, personal mailbox (SMTP), router, FTP, DNS, and the client > processes for the same ? ( Note I am not asking for ax25 forwarding at all.) Any old PC running *BSD or Linux will have the right tools to run POP, SMTP routing FTP and DNS. Also telnet/rlogin/www and all the other internet services. > Can they be used on a 486SX to run the KISS connections to KISS tncs and > ethernet? I don't know the state of the BSD code for this - certainly Brian Kantor started on it. Linux you can either run the JNOS port, WAMPES (a NOS like system) or the alpha test AX.25 code to drive TNC's or the PI/2 card. With another PC running the ethernet->AX.25 bridge its nice and easy however you do it. > Where do I get the information to implement this? There is a LINUX radio howto, and I guess the BSD people have a similar document not only that but there are people running both systems on this mailing list. > There are several of us in the area around Chicago that would like to try UNIX > on packet TCP. It works very well. Running a world wide web server over amateur radio and showing them Mosaic in action really makes people think...... > I run a Gracilis PackeTen node now that is connected to my JNOS PC and the PC > also is a Pop Mail/FTP Server. A new version of the PackeTen is in the works > which will have an ethernet port on it that I believe will be able to talk to a > UNIX box over ethernet. In which case you will have no problems connecting it all together providing your unix box allows you to set the tcp window and mss parameters to sensible radio values (most do). Alan [Public statement of possible bias: I maintain the Linux networking code and I wrote the AX.25 layer for Linux with bits from various places] ------------------------------ End of TCP-Group Digest V94 #196 ******************************